Introduction by Tony Rettman
Interview by Dale Nixon and
Tony Rettman
Many knuckleheads were
hipped to the talents of the British born Laurice via Robin Willis’ excellent Pure Pop blog a few years back when he
posted the simply brain bursting pre-punk/trash glam single Laurice co-wrote/performed with Simon Godd in 1973 under the band name of
Grudge*. Further thread pulling from the nerd crowd unearthed other unknown gems
he was involved in from that era, including the druggy groove bomb of a 45
recorded under the name Paul St. John as well as the crunching and highly-sought
after one-off single from Glam stompers Spiv. Some were all him, some saw him
in the production seat, but every single one of them bits of plastic showcased
someone with a singular vision who was very adept at making Champagne outta
Carlsberg.
The later part of the
seventies saw Laurice fly the coop of the U.K for the U.S and eventually Canada to
become a disco diva of the ‘highest’ order. Check the cover of his Disco Spaceship 12” and try to tell us
this guy wasn’t doing something of his own in the days of feathered hair and
earrings. He had a brief foray into New Age and Smooth Jazz in the past few
years, but is now mining his seventies archives due to the interest in that era
of his career being shown by various turkeys of various stripes. Check out The Best of Laurice Volume One (Mighty
Mouth) to see what he’s done dug up and sit tight for Volume Two.
For now, read the interview
ya simp…
*= No relation to the late
eighties SoCal Straight Edge parody group of the same name. We apologize for
any confusion.
200LBU: Let’s start at the
beginning. Where exactly do you hail from?
LAURICE: North
Wales. I graduated from Leeds in northern England, an old
redbrick university. At the time, it was very unusual for a guy with a degree
to go into the music business. My career councilors were very puzzled. They
wanted to know why I came to university. I told them it was because I wanted to
prove I could do it. Degrees were very tough to get in those days. It’s much
easier now.
200LBU: So what happened after
that?
LAURICE: London. I worked for a music
publishing company and became a talent scout for Pye Records, the home of
Petula Clark of Downtown fame. I was
also a resident songwriter, session singer and producer. I composed a lot of
pop and rock music at the time. All sorts.
200LBU: Who were some of the artists
you brought to Pye?
LAURICE: I brought a great glam rock band
to the label, Spiv. I loved their energy and vitality. I immediately decided to
write a commercial song for them. We made a demo – and it was steamy hot. But
the record label guy was a dope. He insisted on going back into the studio to
remake it. I did that, and even though it came out well, it never recaptured
the energy and vitality of that demo.
I
recorded Odyssey – A
Greek band, because they were so different. I adapted an old Persian folk song
into the track that became She Brings Me Love and they were
very professional and cooperative. But the most professional artist I ever
worked with was the little ten year old girl I worked with. Weeny Bopper and I wrote and
produced David, Donny and Michael for her. No temperament, no
fuss. She just was all business and a real pleasure to work with. There were
others, but those three really stood out. Of course there was Paul St. John – FlyingSaucers Have Landed/Spaceship Lover - a great psychedelic space opus -
both songs slated for Best Of Laurice Volume 2.
200LBU: What is the full story on that Spiv single?
LAURICE: It’s heartbreaking, really. As I
told you before, I liked their energy and vitality when I saw them perform and
heard a rough demo. They nixed the demo and then I remade it and released it.
Unfortunately the BBC, which was the ONLY outlet for playing music at the time,
had a real grudge against British artists. They only wanted to play American
artists. Go figure. The supposed promotion teams from the record companies were
virtually dumping promotional copies of records on the BBC’s doorstep. I was so
angry about this practice that I literarily made a sandwich board and paraded
up and down outside the BBC building in London
saying that the BBC was unfair to British artists! But how do you break it to a
band that their record, which was great, wound up on the BBC doorstep garbage
heap? That is why so many artists left Britain during this period.
200LBU: What would you say were
your biggest successes in the UK?
LAURICE: When Christine Comes Around/I’m Gonna Smash Your Face In by Grudge. As I have always said, they were punk
rock before punk rock was even thought of! You shoulda heard the original demo
of Christine. Friggin’ awesome, man. Almost a Beach Boys surfing 60’s feel to
it. I had an acetate of it and it’s slated for Best Of Laurice Volume 2 – so
look out for it, it’s really hot!
200LBU: I know you've probably told this story a million times, but give the back story on When Christine Comes Around.
LAURICE: My college mate Simon Potter was
the co-writer of When Christine Comes Around. He became the head of the English Department at famous Wimbledon College,
the Jesuit school for boys in London.
When he started, he lived in a ground floor flat. Simon had a lovely
girlfriend. But there was this girl who had an apartment above him and every
time he had a visitor there would be a knock at the door and there she would
be. She was a very homely girl and she could suck the oxygen out of a room in
two minutes. And guess what her name was? Christine! We were driving over London Bridge
one day after a friggin’ awful evening visit by this woman and Simon was
talking about what he wanted to do to her. I said why don’t we write a song
about it? It took us about 20 minutes and it was done.
200LBU: Who’d you have to convince to get
that on vinyl?
LAURICE: I had hooked up with this guy
Cyril Black. Cyril was a real character. At that time there was a very famous
band leader called Stanley Black. He was very well regarded and very
prestigious and then there was his brother Cyril - who was a walking
embarrassment to Stanley,
apparently! Cyril was really hungry for success. He had this tiny little room
in Denmark Street, London’s Soho
– Tin Pan Alley – the music row of that time.. He was such a stereotype, this
little Jewish guy in Tin Pan Alley with glasses. You could trust him as far as
you could throw him – which wouldn’t be very far. We went to see him and
sung When Christine Comes Around to
him and he thought that it was wonderful. Somehow he happened to know this rich
heiress called Prudence. We went to see her and sang the song to her. Prudence
thought it was wonderful and we were in the studio before we knew it with my
band and it just took off. She loved I’m Gonna Smash Your Face In as
well.
200LBU: And you spent some time at Abbey Road studios around
that time as well, correct?
LAURICE: I met the Hollies and
attended a few of their recording sessions. And I also attended some of the
Pink Floyd Atom Heart Mother
Sessions.
200LBU: That must have been quite a
thrill.
LAURICE: Well quite honestly it was rather a shock.
The whole image of Pink Floyd was supposed to be anti-establishment at the
time. But all I heard from the band there was "Will it be a hit?" and
"Is it commercial enough?" It was really quite sobering.
200LBU: Did it sour you on the
band?
LAURICE: Oh, not at all. I knew exactly where they
were coming from. It was a relief to know that they were actually human, like
the rest of us.
200LBU: What was your take on the
Progressive Rock scene going on in England at the time you were
producing?
LAURICE: After attending the Pink Floyd sessions, I realized
that all these bands wanted commercial hits. After all, it was their bread and
butter and their way to the big time. The progressive rock scene went in all
different directions, and it was very exciting, with The Beatles leading the way. I
was fortunate enough to attend a Moody
Blues audition practice session before they really hit the jackpot,
and they were just great, particularly Justin Hayward. He had a terrific
presence. They did Nights in White Satin and I just loved it.
I finally liked The Cream,
mainly because I just loved Eric
Clapton’s voice and his use of lead guitar. But there were so many
good progressive British rock bands that just came out of the woodwork. Some
sparkled for a moment and vanished, never fully receiving their due, while
others are classics to this day: Eric
Burdon and The Animals, The
Searchers, The Rolling
Stones, Jeff Beck, Procul Harum, Genesis, Jethro Tull – I could go
on and on. But to fully answer your question, I basically dug their progressive
creativity. The 1960s and 1970s were the most progressive and influential
periods of contemporary music up until now.
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